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    The Wonder of Dogs, Thursday 8-9pm BBC 2

    Jo noticed this in the TV listings yesterday.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/pro...-dogs-ep1.html

    Not sure if I will catch it at the time. It might need to be an iPlayer job.
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    I missed this last night. Downloading it on iPlayer now. Did anyone see it? Was it any good?
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    I recorded it and have just finished watching it. There were bits I liked and bits I didn't. The professionals they got in to talk about things like how dogs were domesticated and what they were like in Victorian times I found really interesting. Especially the evolution specialist as he told of how dogs were scavengers not the wolves like today which helps disprove the whole dominance theory. I didn't like the presenters, though, because they kept saying stupid things and putting their own opinions forward. I just kept thinking, 'well you've alienated about 50% of the audience with that statement".

    I'd like to watch the next episode, though, as it goes more into how they use their noses and minds. It had a clip of the dogs that have driven cars, which was done using clicker training, so I hope they mention something to do with that.
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    Just finished watching it. It was okay and enjoyable enough. I think it kind of fell between two camps. It was not science based enough or completely anecdotal. Trying to please too many but I guess that is what you need to do to cover all the bases.

    It will be interesting to see how different next weeks show is.

    Sam seemed to enjoy it anyway.

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    lol Oh I loved the Neopolitan Mastiff he was lovely. I've got one that I help train called Winston but he's still a pup so probably as tall but hasn't filled out yet.
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    That's an English Mastiff on't tele I believe........doesn't sound like my type of program though, I've seen so many similar shows that they just don't have anything new to say.....as for the origins of our beloved mutts, it's all conjecture & theories as we just don't know how or exactly when (though we can give an educated guess thanks to DNA as to where) they first loped onto the path of domestication.
    More concrete & recorded facts such as how dogs have been considered throughout our recent past are more interesting.
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    They did talk about the DNA and how there is no doubt that all dogs come from Wolfs and no coyote or the like in there. There was also discussion about how it is only one gene in a dog that effects body size, one for leg length etc which allows them to be breed into such hugely different shapes and sizes. In humans each of these things is controlled by dozens of genes so you get less variation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiKelly View Post
    There was also discussion about how it is only one gene in a dog that effects body size, one for leg length etc which allows them to be breed into such hugely different shapes and sizes. In humans each of these things is controlled by dozens of genes so you get less variation.

    You have to bear in mind though that dogs, like all domestic animals, are bred by man & part of the breeding selection is to use genetic faults in order to fashion the animals to our purposes. Many of these defective genes are engendered by inbreeding. Whereas nature will remove genetic abnormalities (unless they are needed for evolutionary adaptions) from the gene pool, humans will encourage & multiply them for their own ends. Apart from size & colour,there are few shape differences between the sub species of wolves & like wise, dogs that have become wild or feral also have fewer or no genetic abnormalities as the enviroment will weed them out.
    It wouldn't be impossible to breed basset legged humas if that was the basis of the selection proces.

    Dogs do show the greatest variety of body shape, colour, size & coat type of any other animal but then they have been used in a far greater variety of functions too than any other animal & so have been hyper selected & bred for specific tasks.
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